How to Spot a Pirated Tape

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  1. Mister X

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    How could anybody copy one of my favorites, Debbie Gibson?
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    If it said "Debby Gibson" it almost certainly would be fake and maybe not the original artist :lollegs:

    A special treat for you. here is the real Debbie along with her 80s rival Tiffany.
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    Careful girls ! :hmmm

    p.s. How can Debbie possibly be 50 and Tiffany 49 ? Time flies.
     
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    Oh yea, that's what I get for doing boring work paperwork and scanning boombox stuff at the same time, Debbie forgive me I fixed it!
     
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    There must still be quite a few fans in Singapore. I like the format of the poster too
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    I have seen Tiffany in concert but the only Debbie I have seen was Debbie Harry.
     
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    I saw Debbie a few years ago at a park downtown, pretty good concert, the one male backup dancer was pretty old, I think he's been with her since the 80's. It was like watching a Will Ferrell Movie of a adult guy dressing like he's 15 again.
     
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    This is a funny topic :) In the late 1980s - 1990s, in Russia there were very few factory-recorded cassettes, and most of them were boring patriotic crap, so either you would record yourself from whatever you could get - another cassette or LP or a R2R reel - or you would buy it from guys who would do it for you, they would record it on a blank tape. Or you could buy already recorded one. Of course, no one paid any royalties to anyone.

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    This picture is from 1990s, when CDs became popular, this was a HUGE flea market in Moscow, where you could buy pretty much anything. No regulation, like Wild West or 1920s Chicago :)

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    I don't remember, have I shared my video regarding Soviet/Russian cassette culture?

     
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    An interesting video. This is some Russian music (made with a bit of help from U.K. producer Trevor Horn) that caused a big impact in the U.K. and reached Number 1 in the charts. A bit controversial when it was released in 2002 :redface and years ahead of Katy Perry. The first time I saw this I though the end of the video was clever and completely unexpected.

    I guess this might now be on new Russian and Chinese naughty lists.
     
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    Below is an example of a third category of tape bought here in the U.K.. Not pirated but not what the record companies wanted.
    Can you spot anything unusual about it ?

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    Here is a much bigger clue

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    It is what they call a grey import, intended for sale in Greece but ending up being sold in the U.K.
    For some reason (lower prices ?) we got a lot of Greek imports. At one point there was a record shop
    in Bristol (Record Fayre ?) which sold nothing but Greek imports at about 75% of the price of the usual
    U.K. retailers like Virgin Records. If anything the quality of LPs bought there was often higher the U.K pressings.
    It wasn't unheard of for those to be made using recycled vinyl so you would sometimes find a small fleck of old paper
    label embedded in the playing surface of you brand new record.

    Something that pirate and grey import media wouldn't do is contribute to "The Charts".
    To a Pop Music Fan the most important U.K. TV programme of the week was Top of the Pops
    and last weeks sales would determine who was on it, as they only ever showed acts rising in the charts
    and unless banned (as Frankie Foes to Hollywood's Relax infamously was) always ended the programme
    with that weeks number one, even if like Bryan Adams "Everything I Do" it stayed there for sixteen weeks.
    How we got fed up with seeing clips from Robin Hood.

    Here is a typical chart rundown nicely edited from the 30 minute programme.
    Note the arrows illustrating what going up.

     
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    I was controversial when it came out. I am pretty sure nothing like this can be made today, with religion replacing communist ideology and with the government's stance against the propaganda of "unnatural" relationships.
    These are pirated Russian cassettes from 1995, judging by the labels.

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    These are also from mid-1990s:

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    This is an officially-licensed (hopefully, the box does not have the "it is official" sticker) Russian cassette for sale in Russia and the CIS countries, it says so on the bottom. This is because of price difference, obviously.

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    Some of the Russian-made cassettes with Western artists are now for sale on eBay, here is one from 2000: https://www.ebay.com/itm/312798518916?hash=item48d43e9e84:g:nKUAAOSwYUldhBZO But then there are also many Indonesian or Thai cassettes, for example.
     
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